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12:01 am November 19, 2010
| Dave Reynolds
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6:31 am November 22, 2010
| Random Wanderer
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Post edited 6:32 am – November 22, 2010 by Random Wanderer
Well, Lindsay, I think you can safely let the feral Shadowchild handle Cuddles there while you take the Die and remove yourself from the equation. Or at least find a marginally safer place to hide.
Since those claws could slice the tongue apart like that, I'd say Charon's definitely got the upper hand in this one. Although I wonder if her going Shadowchild will affect Madison somehow…
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8:09 pm November 22, 2010
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Interesting point, Random Wanderer (and welcome aboard). Charon has yet to be seen having subconscious chats with Madison beyond the fight with Hydra; nothing one-on-one. Could be that the ability is there but a reason hasn't shown itself (Madison is split betwixt mother and daughter somehow?) or that she's somehow "more bonded" to Becka than Charon.
Speaking of whom…I smell a demon barbeque in the near future.
I'll light the grill.
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11:21 pm November 22, 2010
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Post edited 11:21 pm – November 22, 2010 by Random Wanderer
Well, as far as I can tell, Becca was the one who was supposed to be the Shadowchild. Certainly everyone who had any reason to know anything about it was surprised that Charon had some of the powers. So it makes sense to me that the Shadowchild spirit, Madison, would have more of a bond to Becca. But there is probably still some connection to Charon, else Charon wouldn't have the powers. Now, Madison is busy spying on a creepy spirit-bridge-thing with Becca at the moment, and I was wondering if Charon's powers awakening again might somehow pull Madison away from there at what is probably an inopportune moment.
As for Cuddles (as I've decided to call this demon for some reason), I'm thinking Charon's got some suppressed anger and feelings of helplessness that she needs to take out on something. She couldn't solve Becca's problem by beating the heck out of something, but now she's got a perfect target to work out some anxiety-fueled anger on. Assuming she's sane enough in this form for it to matter…
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11:47 am November 23, 2010
| Telonos
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That's a good question; but I think it's been shown that whatever powers Charon has, they are seperate from Becka and Madison so there shouldn't be an issue of Madison being pulled away, though clearly they are all linked because they are different aspects of the Shadowchild entity. Personally it seems like it's a mistake to say that Madison is the whole of the shadowchild entity….I think she is just another aspect of a much larger whole that encompasses all three of them.
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5:54 pm November 23, 2010
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Post edited 6:34 pm – November 23, 2010 by Random Wanderer
The Shadowchild has become a merging of the three of them, true. What I meant is that I believe Madison is the consciousness that was supposed to take control whenever the human host fully transformed into the Shadowchild. That got a little messed up by there turning out to be TWO humans who combined to form the host, one of whom was perfectly willing to give Madison a smack upside the head when she tried dominating things.
Well anyway, if Charon's transformation does affect Madison, we'll probably find out soon enough.
To change the subject, it's interesting how simply giving her a name changes my perception of Madison from "a dangerious and possibly untrustworthy spirit" to almost a member of their family. It's an interesting example of the effectiveness of names.
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6:27 pm November 23, 2010
| Dave Reynolds
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Post edited 6:31 pm – November 23, 2010 by Dave Reynolds
Like "Cuddles the Moonbeast" there? 
Bit of inside trivia. The name for Madison came down between two names: Madison and Blackie. Madison won because D.Rod's the writer and I'm not allowed to name characters. Seriously, you should hear half the proposed names I've come up with over the course of this series' life. Some I still think are awesome… and some I'm thankful D.Rod is there to tell me "NO!"
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6:50 pm November 23, 2010
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Dave Reynolds said:
Like "Cuddles the Moonbeast" there? 
Bit of inside trivia. The name for Madison came down between two names: Madison and Blackie. Madison won because D.Rod's the writer and I'm not allowed to name characters. Seriously, you should hear half the proposed names I've come up with over the course of this series' life. Some I still think are awesome… and some I'm thankful D.Rod is there to tell me "NO!"
He is the great 'spoiler of fun.
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7:27 pm November 23, 2010
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I have to say he was right in this case. Blackie is too much like a name for a pet, and Becka's whole point at that moment seemed to be that the Shadowchild spirit was a person in her own right and deserved a person's name. Cuddles I can give a silly name to because it's shown no signs of being sapient, and I can joke that all it really wanted to do with give Lindsay a big hug and "kisses," like an overly affectionate dog. But Madison is better off with person's name, because she is a person (so far as we can tell, anyway).
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8:40 pm November 23, 2010
| Dave Reynolds
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I'm not saying D.Rod was wrong. Hell, I completely agree with using the name Madison. It IS a much better and more thought out name, as opposed to some pet nickname. I have a loooong history of naming characters… Well… Stupid names.
For example, some years ago, I was helping out with some Beast Wars Transformers forum RPG and we were making a team of aquatic characters. While everyone else on the team had named their characters something cool and threatening, like Maelstrom, Kraken and even Devilfish. My character turned into a bottlenose dolphin and I called him Dolphinnegan. To make it worse, he spoke in an Irish Baroque accent and his tail split off to form an energon shillelagh.
Thus, I'm not allowed to name characters.
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8:51 pm November 23, 2010
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Dave Reynolds said:
I'm not saying D.Rod was wrong. Hell, I completely agree with using the name Madison. It IS a much better and more thought out name, as opposed to some pet nickname. I have a loooong history of naming characters… Well… Stupid names.
For example, some years ago, I was helping out with some Beast Wars Transformers forum RPG and we were making a team of aquatic characters. While everyone else on the team had named their characters something cool and threatening, like Maelstrom, Kraken and even Devilfish. My character turned into a bottlenose dolphin and I called him Dolphinnegan. To make it worse, he spoke in an Irish Baroque accent and his tail split off to form an energon shillelagh.
Thus, I'm not allowed to name characters.
Yeah . . . I can't think of a better name.
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9:11 pm November 23, 2010
| DanialArin
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Dave Reynolds said:
I'm not saying D.Rod was wrong. Hell, I completely agree with using the name Madison. It IS a much better and more thought out name, as opposed to some pet nickname. I have a loooong history of naming characters… Well… Stupid names.
For example, some years ago, I was helping out with some Beast Wars Transformers forum RPG and we were making a team of aquatic characters. While everyone else on the team had named their characters something cool and threatening, like Maelstrom, Kraken and even Devilfish. My character turned into a bottlenose dolphin and I called him Dolphinnegan. To make it worse, he spoke in an Irish Baroque accent and his tail split off to form an energon shillelagh.
Thus, I'm not allowed to name characters.
"Dolphinnegan"? Cheesey as that is, you could have done far, FAR worse. In the Deathwatch game I'm playing in, several characters (including one of mine) were blatantly named for the principal characters in action movies. As long as everyone at the table has fun, it's all good.
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9:14 pm November 23, 2010
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Post edited 9:17 pm – November 23, 2010 by SporkBot
Dave Reynolds said:
Like "Cuddles the Moonbeast" there?
It all takes me back to that classic Garfield gag: "THIS…is a 'boopsie'?!"
First, I'd also like to say that I've come up with some stupid names in my day. When I made my own comic books (co-created by a late friend and I) I named one nameless thug "Jiffer-Jaffer".
Shut up. I was ten. And he was killed in less than a couple pages anyway.
Second, kudos to Charon for keeping her clothes intact with this transformation (Becka apparently can change at will, but Charon's seems involuntary, "in the presence of evil" type of thing. Goes along with the feral nature of her abilities).
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1:09 am November 24, 2010
| Dave Reynolds
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I'm not too sure I could have her running around half naked for the rest of the story arc again and not have it turn into a running joke, like Bruce Banner's purple pants. Besides, seriously… It's like snowing… Girl's gonna get cold.
Let's say that after a couple of times transforming, she invested into a wardrobe that had a little stretch to them.
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6:29 am November 24, 2010
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Post edited 6:32 am – November 24, 2010 by Random Wanderer
I did warn you, Lindsay. You really should learn to listen to advice from beyond the fourth wall.
On the plus side, since Charon could keep herself from killing Chrissy back when they hated each other, she should probably be able to keep herself from killing you. Probably. But it still would have been wiser to vacate the immediate area.
Of course, I can't really blame Lindsay for not remembering that detail right away. There was a lot going on back then, and she only really saw Charon transform once.
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5:19 pm November 24, 2010
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Twice. The fight with Aspis was listed as Canon. I recall Shakespeare, bosums and a can of Pringles being involved.
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7:57 pm November 24, 2010
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adamas said:Twice. The fight with Aspis was listed as Canon. I recall Shakespeare, bosums and a can of Pringles being involved.
That time, however, Becka was present.
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